37 Comments
User's avatar
Evan Kleiman's avatar

I just heard from one of my cousins. Apparently his dad (also my cousin) worked for Pepperidge Farm his entire career! Amazing news.

Ruth Stroud's avatar

This is so enjoyable, Evan. It’s relatable even though Thanksgiving wasn’t a big holiday in our home. My immigrant family made a much bigger deal about the Jewish holidays. I really began celebrating and appreciating Thanksgiving as an adult. You’ve inspired me to try a chestnut stuffing this year—probably with a combo of boiled and roasted chestnuts if I can find them. Happy Thanksgiving!

Evan Kleiman's avatar

I’ve heard that some Costcos have them

Ruth Stroud's avatar

I just bought some at Gelson’s!

Ruth Stroud's avatar

Thanks, Evan! I’ll check it out.

Sydney Krelstein's avatar

I am from Toronto and Thanksgiving wan't Thanksgiving unless we had Pepperidge Farm dressing! However, we never used chestnuts - really did not need them.

Have a wonderful holiday.l

Denise's avatar

Prancing is precisely the image that came to mind when I saw the subject line of Black Olive Fingers, and it brought a big smile to my face! Thank you for that invitation to visit the past!

mary mocine's avatar

I grew up in the Neutra enclave on the east side of Silvers Lake (in a house designed by his associates-not by him.) Where is the Schindler house? I can’t picture it. And, you’ve inspired me to make chestnut stuffing since I won’t have to roast and peel them.

Evan Kleiman's avatar

I loved those Neutra houses. There’s a link in the text that goes to the Instagram of The Walker House. West side of the lake in the hills.

mary mocine's avatar

Yes, I saw it and didn’t recognize it. Not a surprise as I’m not familiar with the west side-except for the big place that belonged to the guy who invented the rubber tip for Bobby pins!

mary mocine's avatar

And, my grandparents lived on that hillside before there were other houses there. Silvers Lake was a big pond. My uncle once brought a cow home. Shows how rural it was. He had to return the cow.

Evan Kleiman's avatar

There are several Schindler houses on the same block.

Domenica Marchetti's avatar

My mom also used to roast chestnuts for stuffing. We didn't have to help with that task, but she did make us shell almonds, hazelnuts, and walnuts--tons of them--for Christmas cookies. Do you still roast and peel them? I confess I buy the ones in jars (except for when I want to roast them to eat them on their own). I have many fond memories of getting chestnuts from the carts in NYC. Even if the nuts themselves weren't always great, the aroma and ritual were.

Evan Kleiman's avatar

Shelling all those nuts must not have been fun. Child labor! I buy them ready peeled now but if I see them in the store I throw a few in the oven for the memories and the aroma.

Shelley Handler's avatar

As a kid growing up in LA, Thanksgiving always included the black olives on the fingers ritual, and occasionally eating so many of them that I was queasy. What a delight to see Diamond Bakery mentioned. My cousin married a son of the Diamonds, so I was related to the bakery, however obliquely.

Evan Kleiman's avatar

I love oblique relations. And I relate to the overconsumption of the olives.

Shelley Handler's avatar

How nice to read your reply, Evan. I was an Angeli diner on my visits to LA back in the day. I am a Chez Panisse alum (first chef of the Cafe) who trained in northern Italy in the late 70s, so Angeli was quite a delight.

Zora Margolis's avatar

I grew up in the Fairfax district, and a visit to Diamond Bakery was a weekly ritual for my mother during the 50s and early 60s. I often went with her. She always bought challah, corn rye, egg bagels, and a piece of "racetrack cake," similar to a chocolate babka at Diamond. Then we went to Freddy's for sour cream and cream cheese, and to Canter's for lox. Pitted black olives on the fingertips was obligatory on all holidays during childhood!

Evan Kleiman's avatar

My mom had the same order as yours except for the egg bagels. Mom preferred onion. But oh that racetrack!

Zora Margolis's avatar

I forgot to include onion pletzl. We always had one or two in the house. A buttered hunk of pletzl was a favorite snack.

Kitty Morse's avatar

Happy thanksgiving Evan

I love the black olive fingers and the chestnuts!

Opening oysters and slicing chestnuts are both lethal...ouvrir les huitres I Ouch!

Scott Daigre's avatar

YES we STILL have tomatoes that won't give up the ghost. In the best way! It's been a year to remember! Haven't seen such a wonderful season in 20 years.

Scott Daigre's avatar

Nice memories! Happy T'Giving.

Evan Kleiman's avatar

To you too! Do you still have tomatoes going? I have one plant that refuses to die.

Carol Thompson's avatar

I can't believe Angeli is no more - I miss it sooo much - and I can't believe Diamond Bakery closed. Went there since the 1940's.

Evan Kleiman's avatar

On both those counts, me too and me neither!

Annie Sui's avatar

Wow, this makes me appreciate the small packets of shelled chestnuts that you can get from Asian grocery stories. Tender, with no chestnut-chasing!

Evan Kleiman's avatar

According to Marcia (see above) Costco has them!

dyanne asimow's avatar

Very nicely written!!!

Joanna Pruess's avatar

Thanks for the trip down Memory Lane, Evan. Wishing you and yours a joyful and tasty Thanksgiving. I'm thrilled to be coming to CA for the holiday, including cooking part of the meal with my now-12 year old grandson. What unmitigated happiness.

Evan Kleiman's avatar

What a lovely way to spend the holiday!

Joanna Pruess's avatar

I am euphoric, Evan. Thanks.

Marcia Mazria's avatar

Fun piece to read! Thanks!

So what about using shelled, vacuum-packed chestnuts? They work well for my modified recipe from the old classic, “Joy of Cooking”.

Evan Kleiman's avatar

They didn't exist back then.

Marcia Mazria's avatar

Yep — I remember stabbing myself peeling them while living in the West Village. Loved the smell of chestnuts roasting at a street corner vendor…

Now I happily buy peeled ones at Costco in MdR!

Nancy Harmon Jenkins's avatar

Is this something new for you, Evan? Or is it a new discovery for me? In any case, I'm happy to see you here. xx Nancy

Evan Kleiman's avatar

Hi Nancy. Not new, but I've been too intermittent.